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Shonda Rhimes used to feel a disconnect between her and her characters

By Rachel Martin,
Taylor Hutchison, Mallory Yu
Published October 29, 2025 at 3:16 PM CDT

On Wild Card, well-known guests answer the kinds of questions we often think about but don't talk about. Grey's Anatomy creator Shonda Rhimes talks about why she doesn't care about validation.

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Rachel Martin is a host of Morning Edition, as well as NPR's morning news podcast Up First.
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