Pam Perry is a retired non-game wildlife specialist for the Minnesota DNR. She joins John Latimer and Heidi Holtan on the Tuesday Morning Show to talk BIRDS! They talk about the upcoming Christmas Bird Count, the first snowy owl reported in the area SE of Brainerd and the expected return of more grosbeaks this winter. Pam tells us about the rough-legged hawk, when and where to look for them and why they are one of her favorites. They talk about field guides for birds and Pam recommends some she likes to give as Christmas gifts.